(Your Professor David Kirk Philp manages two bands now for his fun new company, Dadager Entertainment. To celebrate, he ate a hamburger this week. Can you guess if he’s a well done or medium rare kind of guy?)
Our next Music Biz 101 & More radio show will be this Wednesday, September 5th. Our 8pm show will be a replay of one of our best shows ever – an interview with Ariana Grande/Justin Beiber/Tori Kelly (and more) manager Scooter Braun. He’s been in the news a lot the past week, investing in THIS COMPANY and announcing confirmation that he’s, once again, co-managing KANYE WEST.
This interview was recorded in Nashville, so we know what happens in them. But you don’t. So if you’re into the music biz, listen and learn.
Stream the show live on Wednesday HERE!
Also, I wrote a blurb in last week’s newsletter that Hypebot picked up and re-posted. It’s about lessons DIY artists can learn inspired by the life and passing of Aretha Franklin. Read it HERE and make me happy.
Meanwhile, our Twitter account stays alive and active. Have a question about anything? Tweet us: @MusicBiz101wp
Now keep scrolling down. There’s more great stuff below.
See you very soon!
Your Professor David Kirk Philp
Managing Your Band – 6th Edition is out! Did you buy it?!?
40% discount. Hurry!
You should, right now, click on the headline above and read this excellent interview with Joyce Smith. Ever heard of her? Most likely not. She’s the manager of The Rolling Stones and has been working in their orbit for the past three decades (and their full-time manager since 2010).
It’s an interesting story, how she went from working on the legal side of what the Stones were doing to moving into the business management, and then day-to-day management of the band.
Some key questions and answers:
WHAT’S THE TOUGHEST THING ABOUT MANAGING THE ROLLING STONES?
In truth it’s probably what a lot of other managers may say to you: that we live in a very complicated world now, with so many different platforms. And I think because of that, and because they [the Stones] have been going for so long and doing so brilliantly for so long, there’s just a lot of us!
It’s all the same issues that anybody else would have, but they’re amplified. And you’re looking at the past, protecting that, working out what we can do to make the most of that. And then there’s new formats and new music, how do we keep that fresh and alive.
The Lesson: Just because they’re The Rolling Stones, that doesn’t mean everything comes easy. In a way, managing this band could be tougher than managing a startup band because of the expectations. So even though the band is still celebrated for music they created over 50 years ago and even though they released new music of blues tracks that were written in the 1930s, ’40s, and ’50s, you, as manager (or Joyce, as manager) need to keep up with the world of 2018, which includes more than just typical print, TV and radio media.
And, she and her team have to find inspiration to keep the Stones catalog alive and fresh. A great example: For the band’s 2016 album Blue & Lonesome, they changed the famous red Rolling Stones tongue logo from red to blue. Simple, but creative.
WHAT WOULD YOUR ADVICE BE TO AN UP-AND-COMING MANAGER?
Always remember that however well you get on with an artist, you’re not there to be their friend. Stay a little bit detached and give solid advice, and that goes back to the lawyer thing, being objective and giving your advice dispassionately.
Sometimes it’s tempting, isn’t it, you’re invited to things and you think, Oh, that’s nice, but you don’t want to make the mistake of thinking that you’re a friend.
Even if they very kindly say that you are, and maybe you are, but in your mind, even if it’s true, always keep that distinction; that way you will do the job better.
The Lesson: There’s a fine line you need to draw when managing, or working with, a band. If you saw the movie Almost Famous, a great piece of advice given to William, the teenage character who went out on the road to interview fictional band Stillwater, by real life writer Lester Bangs was this: “Don’t become friends with the band.” You can guess what happened from there.
But in the real world, you can be friendly and have respectful relationships with the bands you work with. You can hang out and talk about your lives and commonalities and appear to be buddies. But there always has to be that space.
There has to be the ability for you, as manager or label person or product manager, to tell it like it is and hurt some feelings or disagree or tell a band member that s/he is following the wrong path and needs to change. You need, many times, to be more like a parent than a friend.
Click and read the article. You’ll be glad you did.
(Ben Weinman, Kimbra’s manager and former Dillinger Escape Plan guitarist, with a WPU MBA class in 2018.)
Billboard Magazine officially announced its top 2018 music business programs on June 27th, and William Paterson’s undergraduate and MBA Music & Entertainment Industries programs received this national recognition. Read the full article HERE.
If you didn’t click above, here’s what they said…
WILLIAM PATERSON UNIVERSITY
“There is no doubt in my mind that William Paterson University does an amazing job preparing students for the future,” says RCA Records co-president Joe Riccitelli, an alumnus of the school. “Their courses are relevant and competitive in today’s music business.” WPU’s music and entertainment industries program is now complemented by an MBA in music and entertainment management. The school produces the Music Biz 101 & More radio show and podcast, whose recent guests have included Scooter Braun and Florida Georgia Line manager Seth England.
Faculty: The school, 20 miles west of Manhattan, has visiting music/entertainment industry experts who lecture undergraduate and MBA students. Along with Riccitelli, recent participating executives have included Atlantic Records executive vp promotion John Boulos, Warner Music’s Matt Young and Dan Goldberg, and Atlantic head of digital strategy, marketing and e-commerce Paul Sinclair.
Great guests are coming over the next few months to your Music Biz 101 & More radio show.
July 25 – Matthew Adell – Chief Digital Officer, Native Instruments
August 1 – Erin Anderson – Artist Manager
August 8 – Kimberly Williams – VP, Synch Licensing
Tune in at 8 PM each Wednesday for some great, FREE music biz talk.
For full details about the Music & Entertainment Industries Program, including courses, the minor, and our MBA, click HERE.
For full details about the WPU Pop Music Studies Program, including courses and audition requirements, click HERE.
Professor David Philp is Assistant Professor Music & Entertainment Industries and Popular Music Studies at William Paterson University. He is the co-host of the only FREE advice college radio-based music & entertainment industry talk show in America, Music Biz 101 & More, which airs live most Wednesday nights and is available as a podcast HERE every night (days too). Your favorite professor is also co-author (with Dr. Steve Marcone) of Managing Your Band – 6th Edition. Reach him at PhilpD@wpunj.edu or find him on LinkedIn HERE.